{"id":2337,"date":"2022-04-04T16:05:11","date_gmt":"2022-04-04T20:05:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/?p=2337"},"modified":"2022-04-10T10:57:50","modified_gmt":"2022-04-10T14:57:50","slug":"the-consolidated-ev-haters-checklist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/2022\/04\/the-consolidated-ev-haters-checklist\/","title":{"rendered":"The consolidated EV hater\u2019s checklist"},"content":{"rendered":"

The Consolidated EV Hater\u2019s Checklist<\/strong><\/p>\n

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  1. What will we do what the batteries?<\/li>\n
  2. They cost $80,000! Who can buy one?<\/li>\n
  3. But we don’t have any place to plug them in!<\/li>\n
  4. They don’t work in my particular use case, you know, towing my eight kids and a trailer across the desert every day!<\/li>\n
  5. Lithium is mined by slave labor children!<\/li>\n
  6. The money goes to communists!<\/li>\n
  7. There’s not enough lithium\/nickel\/cobalt\/etc!<\/li>\n
  8. They’ll take down the entire grid!<\/li>\n
  9. I don’t want to be forced to drive an electric car!<\/li>\n
  10. They’re powered by coal anyway!<\/li>\n
  11. This is all so the government can control your car!<\/li>\n
  12. How will we pay for highways when people stop using gasoline?<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

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    The Consolidated Response<\/strong><\/p>\n

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    1. What will we do what the batteries?\u00a0<\/strong>EV batteries are recycled at a profit. GM is working with a private company, for example, to recover lithium and various other metals and chemicals from EV batteries in the United States. Stellantis plans several facilities, globally, because they see this as a profit center. Lithium recovered from batteries is valuable due to its purity.<\/li>\n
    2. They cost $80,000! Who can buy one?\u00a0<\/strong>We see this constantly on Facebook. There are some very expensive BEVs (battery-electric vehicles) but far more people buy them in the $30,000-$45,000 range. That\u2019s not cheap but it is pretty typical of modern cars. (The 2022 Leaf is $27,400; the Mini Cooper SE is $29,900; the Chevrolet Bolt is $31,000, and the Mazda MX-30 is $33,470; the Hyundai Kona electric is $34,000.) Prices are coming down as more cars hit the market.<\/li>\n
    3. But we don’t have any place to plug them in!\u00a0<\/strong>In some cases this is valid, for some individuals. As a general rule for society, it isn\u2019t. Look for this to evolve to an accusation of racism (\u201call those people in city ghettos can’t plug in!\u201d).<\/li>\n
    4. They don’t work in my particular use case<\/strong>! That will be true for many people but not most people, and in any case nobody\u2019s forcing you to move over.<\/li>\n
    5. Lithium is mined by slave labor children!<\/strong> Most comes from free adults in Australia and Canada.<\/li>\n
    6. The money goes to communists!\u00a0<\/strong>Well, today, a lot of it goes to one particular fascist sympathizer, but you can always buy electric cars from GM, Ford, Mazda, Hyundai-Kia, etc. which are all run by capitalists.<\/li>\n
    7. There’s not enough lithium\/nickel\/cobalt\/etc!<\/strong> Yes, there is.<\/li>\n
    8. They’ll take down the entire grid \/ the grid does not have enough capacity!<\/strong>\u00a0It\u2019s amazing that Thomas Edison had the foresight to make the grid exactly the size it is today<\/em>, isn\u2019t it? Wait, what\u2019s that you say, we\u2019ve added on an enormous number of generating plants since then? Well, I\u2019ll be. I guess we can add capacity to the grid! Next?<\/li>\n
    9. I don’t want to be forced to drive an electric car!<\/strong> Good thing you don\u2019t live in Europe in 2035, then. Nobody\u2019s forcing you to buy an EV in the USA. Stellantis (Chrysler) figures half its sales will be BEVs in 2030. So you can buy a gasoline powered car in eight years.<\/li>\n
    10. They’re powered by coal anyway!<\/strong>\u00a0There are several memes on this topic. Yes, there is some coal in the electrical generation network, but not nearly as much as there used to be. In 2020, according to the EIA<\/a>, the US got 40% of its power from natural gas, 20% from nuclear (carbon free), 20% from renewables (carbon free), 19% from coal, and 1% from petroleum. Nuclear power has stayed fairly stable over the years, while renewables and natural gas have grown and coal is rapidly fading out.<\/li>\n
    11. This is all so the government can control your car!<\/strong> This assertion is baffling, not just due to the raw paranoia, but because it assumes the government cannot control a gasoline powered car if it really, really wants to do that sort of thing. There\u2019s no indication it does.<\/li>\n
    12. How will we pay for highways when people stop using gasoline?\u00a0<\/strong>Good question. There could be higher taxes on electrical use over a certain amount; car registration taxes; income taxes; a slight sales tax boost; more tolls; or other options. This is a good point but hardly a reason to ban an entire technology.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      The writer of this article does not own an electric car, but he also doesn’t make things up when he doesn\u2019t like a trend.<\/p>\n

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      The Consolidated EV Hater\u2019s Checklist What will we do what the batteries? They cost $80,000! Who can buy one? But we don’t have any place to plug them in! They don’t work in my particular use case, you know, towing my eight kids and a trailer across the desert every day! Lithium is mined by […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":34,"featured_media":1606,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[22,70],"tags":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/GM-EV-1.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2337"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/34"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2337"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2337\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2346,"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2337\/revisions\/2346"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1606"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2337"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2337"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.autobison.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2337"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}